Dagon is frog-like or fish-like, whereas Cthulhu is a fat humanoid with tentacles on his face and wings. Penniless, and at the end of my supply of the drug which alone makes life endurable, I can bear the torture no longer; and shall cast myself from this garret window into the squalid street below. The third novel in 6 times New York Times bestselling author Lois H. Gresh’s Sherlock Holmes vs. Cthulhu series. Here's a point that I can stress with another quote, although I've arrived at its reasoning independently: Nor is it likely that Lovecraft intends "Dagon" to be the name used by the deity's nonhuman worshippers; as Robert M. Price points out, "When Lovecraft wanted to convey something like the indigenous name of one of the Old Ones, he coined some unpronounceable jumble". Without looking it up, I believe Ashtoreth is Astarte, both of which are Greek names for the Akkadian or Babylonian goddess Ishtar, which in turn is the adaption of the much older Sumerian Innana. Because of his abnormal size and aloof nature, it is unknown whether Dagon is simply a gargantuan Deep One who acts as father of his race, or if he is actually a Great Old One similar to Cthulhu. Probably the worst thing about the Cthulhu mythos is Robert M. Price. Soul King/Yhwach can prolly beat the weaker advanced alien races, as their abilities aren't exactly elaborated on. As for this, the ancient Near East was a mixing pot of several overlapping cultures and linguistic families (after all, we're talking about a period of several millennia). The Elder Scrolls metaphysics & philosophy, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dagon_(Cthulhu_Mythos)?oldid=7004032. (Think Cthulhu). Propnomicon focuses on horror and fantasy props of interest to fans of H. P. Lovecraft and players of the "Call of Cthulhu" role playing game. The etymology of the name is Levantine, Sumerian, something of the sort, and not derived from some unknown, external source. Superhero Class. Of course, that does not mean that Lovecraft would have thought of that and would not have intended it to be the entity's "culture-neutral" name. I think it's my new headcanon. Dagon is a major antagonist in Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, serving as the overarching antagonist of Season 3. Lovecraft-inspired Cthulhu Mythos. ... and it’s not unusual to find priests of Dagon and Cthulhu working side by side in a community. Classification: Enormous Deep One. Dagon By H. P. Lovecraft: I am writing this under an appreciable mental strain, since by tonight I shall be no more. It is also unclear whether he is native to Earth or was he along other Deep Ones part of the invasion force that came to Earth alongside Cthulhu and his Star Spawn. Jul 31, 2017 - Explore Jake VanHuss's board "Dagon" on Pinterest. The text does not give any description of Dagon, but this mental image is something most readers arrive at. There is fossil evidence that the oldest, largest of these beings reached sizes of over 50 feet in height. Dagon has been paired with Cthulhu for years on the Elder Party ticket for several decades. They regularly mate with humans along the coast, creating societies of … So Price's facts to support that theory are? He is first introduced in Lovecraft's short story Dagon, and is mentioned extensively throughout the mythos. Iä! The Esoteric Order of Dagon (also known as the Order of Dagon, or simply the Order) is a cult dedicated to the worshipping of Dagon - hence it's name - based in Insmouth. Dagon vs Empty Hand. Powers and Stats. Likewise, using the name "Dagon" would consciously be a reflection of occultism, but thereby implicity a reflection of the OT, and thereby, implicity a reflection of ancient Levantine-Semitic religion. Cthulhu is said to be 'a gigantic thing 'miles high'. Nor is it likely that Lovecraft intends "Dagon" to be the name used by the deity's nonhuman worshippers [...]. He Bo - “Hah! Wudn’t bother no strangers as might bear tales aoutside—that is, withaout they got pryin’. I have watched videos on youtube for this part, and he only gets shot 3-4 times with the cannon before dying. "Alpha Deep One" is also an interesting description. Inside of it, all of existence was created by a mindless, questionable omnipotentbeing named Azathoth who sleeps at the center of creation. Dagon is the demon lord of deformity, the sea, and sea monsters. Vilgax (Power Of The Dagon) vs Dagon. Dagon (released in Spain as Dagon: La Secta del Mar) is a 2001 Spanish horror film directed by Stuart Gordon and written by Dennis Paoli.Despite the title, it is based on H. P. Lovecraft's novella The Shadow Over Innsmouth rather than his earlier short story "Dagon" (1919).The film takes place in "Imboca", a Spanish adaptation of "Innsmouth". I think it's very unlikely that whatever the name "Dagon" refers to would actually be the personal name (by which it is known to itself and its piscine worshippers) of the entity. Yeah i think Dagon and Old Squidface are mates. Also, he probably wouldn't have noticed the sailors when he woke up, let alone eaten a bunch of them. He is an extra-dimensional demonic entity who took a form of a dragon during medieval times. ... Amelia Scarcliffe and Maria Fitzgerald, harbingers of Dagon, who have called forth Cthulhu. Where earlier, the Order is shown to specifically use Sumerian (edit: or, um...Babylonian? Plus an Esoteric Order of Dagon drawstring bag and a detailed map of Innsmouth! Again, let me quote: The creature that appears in the story is often identified with the deity Dagon, but the creature is not identified by that name in the story "Dagon", and seems to be depicted as a typical member of his species, a worshipper rather than an object of worship. Dagon is made of normal flesh, whereas Cthulhu is a kind of gelatenous mass that bursts into gas when struck, and then reforms. This appears to be the basis for the D&D Dagon. The third novel in six-time New York Times best-selling author Lois H. Gresh’s Sherlock Holmes vs. Cthulhu series. Father Dagon Strategies [edit | edit source]. Is Dagon ever described therein? but I was conscious of a distinct impression that its contour and position were not altogether the work of Nature, When one of these Bas-reliefs is found later in CoC, reading chronologically would make you recall the mysterious sculptures of dagon, In dagon, we do not see the god they speak of but the narrator immediately runs after seeing one of its followers. Deities were transferred from one language family into another. Seems like a bug, has anyone encountered this before or know of a workaround? Lovecraft, this is your stop for all of his outstanding works and weird fiction in general! The deepest ocean waters are only about 2 miles down, so Cthulhu, were he truly "miles high", could simply wade into any of them. and in "Dagon", the reference to Dagon is pretty vague as a fish/sea god that was misapplied: Once I sought out a celebrated ethnologist, and amused him with peculiar questions regarding the ancient Philistine legend of Dagon, the Fish-God; but soon perceiving that he was hopelessly conventional, I did not press my inquiries. But word has come to Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson of a more terrifying creature still—the great Cthulhu has been sighted off the waters of Innsmouth, Massachusetts. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. This appears to be the basis for the D&D Dagon. Edit: if we take into account the feeble descriptions of the poor and probably in an irrational state witnesses, Dagon is described to be like a '30 stories building' whereas Cthulhu is said to be 'a gigantic thing 'miles high'. Dagon and Hydra available in three finishes: - … At a very advanced age, some Deep Ones reach enormous sizes. He is worshiped by the Esoteric Order of Dagon, a secret cult based in Innsmouth. I am writing this under an appreciable mental strain, since by tonight I shall be no more. I've always thought of Dagon more as iguana-fish-like and Cthulhu as more squid-like. Tier: Unknown. The most notable character from the series is Cthulhu, and the most notable story is "The Call of Cthulhu". It is interesting, I had always considered them one In the same, Dagon being the closest approximation that could be gleamed from the characters madness. I have shot him up to 7 times and he still comes back. My mind blanks, it's sort of early for me) myths as an analog: I was a mighty little critter, but I heerd what I heerd an’ seen what I seen—Dagon an’ Ashtoreth—Belial an’ Beëlzebub—Golden Caff an’ the idols o’ Canaan an’ the Philistines—Babylonish abominations—Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin—. We get a description of a statue and a anthropomorphic fish-entity, neither of which we can say with any certainty to be the eponymous entity of the title. Vast, Polyphemus-like, and loathsome, it darted like a stupendous monster of nightmares to the monolith, about which it flung its gigantic scaly arms, the while it bowed its hideous head and gave vent to certain measured sounds. The deadly dimensions over London have been sealed, and the monsters have departed. With only a slight churning to mark its rise to the surface, the thing slid into view above the dark waters. They don't look the same. If he is truly is a Great Old One, as he would most likely be comparable to Cthulhu, who is seen as a lesser Great Old One), Speed: At least Superhuman+ (Rose to the surface of the water and darted up and around a monolith before a man could even comprehend what was going on), likely Massively FTL+ (Likely far superior to the Deep Ones' servitor, the Shoggoth's), Lifting Strength: At least Class G via sheer size, likely far higher (Implied to have raised a large island up from the bottom of the ocean to the water's surface), Durability: Unknown (Able to move swiftly on the bottom of the ocean despite its enormous mass. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. They don't look the same. The third novel in six-time New York Times best-selling author Lois H. Gresh’s Sherlock Holmes vs. Cthulhu series. Dagon is never physically described at all. But Dagon is much smaller than Cthulhu. My mind blanks, it's sort of early for me) myths as an analog: [...]. Robert M. Price is wrong. The Cthulhi (also known as the "star-spawn of Cthulhu" and as Xothians) are a species that have a physical similarity with the Great Old One Cthulhu, but are of far smaller size. All in the band of the faithful—Order o’ Dagon—an’ the children shud never die, but go back to the Mother Hydra an’ Father Dagon what we all come from onct—Iä! Eventually, Jack fights and sneaks his way out of Innsmouth, alerting the FBI, Coast Guard, and … A god I believe HP lovecraft had in mind, but did not yet want to reveal, remember Lovecraft defined the trope of making monsters scary by not showing them, He did not get the name Dagon from the temple but from ancient history, it was his best guess. Robert M. Price is wrong. Any: Use Tsunami to drive your enemies from their gates, and The Innsmouth Look for a HUGE power boost! Belial and Beelzebub are both arguably "Jewish", in that their particular names are mentioned in the OT, but the etymology in both cases is generally Levantine-Semitic: "baal" (bel, beel) means "ruler" or deity. However and as far as I can recall, Dagon is never described as having wings or tentacles on its face. I actually really like this theory, OP. If Dagon truly is a Great Old One, he should be immune to almost all conventional forms of harm. Range: At least several hundred meters by virtue of sheer size. And Moriarty will do anything to get his hands on gold, even if it means tearing down the walls between this world and a realm of horrors. Take my summary with a grain of salt, but I believe that currently, scholars hold that the attribution of fish-like qualities happened later, due to a Biblical conflation with another entity, of Babylonian derision - which was called Kullulu(!!). Problem is, he never dies and eventually I go insane and lose. Where earlier, the Order is shown to specifically use Sumerian (edit: or, um...Babylonian? His ideas about the mythos are worse than Derleth, yet at least Derleth never put super preachy lectures in his anthologies. Their task: to bring about the end of humankind, and begin the realm of nightmares on Earth. But word has come to Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson of a more terrifying creature still - the great Cthulhu has been sighted off the waters of Innsmouth, Massachusetts. Saitama & Genos vs Dagon & Cthulhu. In literary criticism (and this comes from a literature researcher; I'm not biased against it), many people don't derive theories from facts in the text, but sadly make up theories and then LOOK FOR facts in the text with which they can weakly support their theories. To spin the thread on, current scholarship holds that Dagon was not actually originally imagined as fish-like in the Levant, but rather that he was a deity of grain and perhaps rain. Possible Great Old One, Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Control over aquatic life, Immortality (Type 1, possibly Type 3 & 4 as well if he truly is a Great Old One), Large Size (Type 2), Attack Potency: Unknown (Seemingly at least comparable in size to a large whale. Do not think from my slavery to morphine that I am a weakling or a degenerate. Lovecraft's influential horror short story "Dagon". Dagon, also known as Father Dagon, is a creature which appears in the H.P. Because of his abnormal size and aloof nature, it is unknown whether Dagon is simply a gargantuan Deep One who acts as father of his race, or if he is actually a Great Old One similar to Cthulhu. The origin of Dagon is rather ambiguous and it is never clearly stated if he is a Great Old One (like Cthulhu) or simply a large and very powerful Deep One. I think I went mad then. You don't reign the seas anymore.” Vs. Dagon is absolutely colossal, described as towering over 30 stories high (an average of 330 feet/100.584 meters). Both stories have the island rising from the ocean, bearing a gigantic alien monster, and then sinking back under the waves. There is no relationship between them, other than that they both sprang from the same place in Lovecraft's imagination. His race is called the “Great Old Ones” or simply “Old Ones” in that story, but note that the term “Old Ones” is used elsewhere in Lovecraft’s writings to refer to various other things. Of course, Lovecraft could not have known that when he wrote the story, which makes it all even more intriguing. Dedicated to the works of H.P. Cthulhu belongs to an alien race that “came to the young world out of the sky”. Jan 5, 2021 - Everything a new member of the Esoteric Order of Dagon needs! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It has its headquarters in the old Masonic Hall which, by Jack's words is the only building in Innsmouth that does not look like it is about to collapse. The story "Dagon" is a kind of dry run for the "Call of Cthulhu". Dagon is the patriarch of the Deep Ones and god to the people of Innsmouth. Also known as Father Dagon, he is possibly a Great Old One and the consort of Mother Hydra. His unholy symbol is a gold disk inscribed with sinister runes around an open octopus eye. But I think it's obvious that Lovecraft did think in these linguistic categories. He did not see dagon, but rather a Deep one praying to his god. Tho star level and mftl+ is a pain for any other hst character to think about competing with. In the game, he appears to have a higher following than Hydra, and has his own cult named "Esoteric Order of Dagon" who are the primary rulers of Innsmouth and main antagonists to Jack Walters (the player character) for the first half of the game. The third novel in 6 times New York Times best-selling author Lois H. Gresh's Sherlock Holmes vs. Cthulhu series. A grotesque humanoid over fifty feet tall, Dagon resembles an enormously oversized Deep One with a fish like face, flapping gills and a scaled, slimy hide. THE OBLITERATING SHADOW The deadly dimensions over London have been sealed, and the monsters have departed. Eminence Waite clarified, “Of course we are looking for a new vice presidential candidate. Press J to jump to the feed. He's just basically a giant deep one himself I thought. But word has come to Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson of a more terrifying creature still - the great Cthulhu has been sighted off the waters of Innsmouth, Massachusetts. I'm not sure if they ever describe Mother Hydra, though, at least in Lovecraft's own stories. However, his status as such is debatable.). 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